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What I Now Know About the Foreclosure Crisis & Loan Modifications

Mon Apr 6, 2009 11:35 PM EDT
politics, msnbc, fraud, banks, foreclosures, mortgages, tim-geithner, mandelman, martin-andelman, loan-modifications, attorney-general-holder
By Mandelman
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Facts I've discovered after months of investigation into private loan modification companies, our government's response to the foreclosure crisis, and banks.

No one is or would ever defend fraudulent loan modification companies. They are pond scum, and should unquestionably go to jail. Sending them to Guantanamo would be fine by me.

That being said, the legitimate loan modification companies are doing a MUCH better job helping homeowners keep their homes by negotiating with lenders in order to modify their payments so they become affordable for the homeowner. You heard that right… A MUCH BETTER JOB.

Their only "crime," according to Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner and countless others, is that they charge for their services. Mr. Geithner, you are an ass. What you're doing to help distressed homeowners, as of today, we could put in a thimble.

The government's responsibility here is to regulate the loan modification industry to protect consumers. You know, punish the bad guys and leave the good guys to do their jobs, help homeowners who are in trouble, and earn a fair profit as a result. If that idea sounds familiar, it's because that's how EVERY single other business or industry is handled here in the U.S. of A.

The government, obviously, can't seem to figure out how to regulate the loan modification industry, so they are abdicating their responsibility by making the blanket statement about loan modification companies: "If you have to pay, walk away."

Paying isn't the problem, people… it's paying and not getting that's a problem. Paying and getting… not so much.

Just this very morning, Geithner and Attorney General Holder held a press conference in Washington on how the government will NOW start cracking down on fraudulent loan modification companies. It was political grandstanding at its finest.

During the press conference, Geithner said: "These predatory scams callously rob Americans of their savings and potentially their homes. We will shut down fraudulent companies more quickly than before. We will target companies that otherwise would have gone unnoticed under the radar."

Well, thanks Tim. Should we applaud you for doing your job… finally?

Holder then added his two cents… "If you discriminate against borrowers or prey on vulnerable homeowners with fraudulent mortgage schemes, we will find you, and we will punish you."

(In case you're wondering what discrimination has to do with anything we're talking about here, Holder's the black guy, and new federal laws dictate that African Americans in government must use the word discrimination in at least 72% of their statements.)

In the AP Business news story, written by Alan Zibel and Christopher Rugaber, that went out on the wire immediately following this morning's press conference, it also says in reference to loan modification companies: "While some are legitimate, authorities say many are con artists."

Wow, "some," and "many"? Gee whiz… you guys and your technical talk. Could you be more vague?

Their article also states: "It's difficult to gauge if even the legitimate consultants are more effective than nonprofit credit counselors who also work with lenders at no charge."

Is it "difficult"? Why would that be, I wonder? If that's "difficult" for our government to gauge, they must be having a dickens of a time fixing the country's banking institutions. Credit default swaps and complex derivatives must be absolutely giving them fits.

Why don't they just tell the truth? The reason it's "difficult to gauge" the relative effectiveness of legitimate loan modification companies as related to the nonprofit credit counselors who offer to work at no charge, is… the non-profit ones haven't done much if anything as yet. The only other reason it could be difficult to gauge is that absolutely no one in government has tried.

Well, I've spent the last several months investigating the private sector's loan modification companies and I've come to very different conclusions than Mr. Geithner, Mr. Holder and those in the media. Of course, I'm not just sitting in an office postulating as to what might be happening out there. I'm driving around in my car with a film crew, interviewing actual homeowners and loan modification company executives, recording their stories and filming while they attempt to call the government help-lines and the banks themselves.

Before I get into the specific results of my investigation, I would think that common sense would dictate that legitimate private loan modification companies would do a much better job of helping troubled homeowners for at least two reasons:

A. They are, for the most part, the only people actually helping consumers get their loans modified. That's right, there is no government program in place as of today.

B. They are mortgage experts being paid to represent a homeowner's interests. That's right, in general people paid to do a job do it better than government workers or volunteers. Go figure.

Here are FIVE FACTS about private loan modification companies and why we need them to survive this government onslaught and media hyped witch-hunt.

1. They are paid to represent the best interests of the homeowner – And no one else is.

To give you a tangible example of why this is important, IndyMac Federal has just announced a new streamlined loan modification program available to homeowners, and they are now refusing to work with private loan modification companies as a result. Here's what it says, word-for-word, in the first few paragraphs of IndyMac's Website that describes their new streamlined program available to consumers:

"The goal of this streamlined loan modification program is to achieve improved value for IndyMac Federal. IndyMac Federal will only make modification offers to borrowers where doing so will achieve an improved value for IndyMac Federal."

Now, I'm not complaining about the language. In fact, that's probably what it should say. They're being, in my mind, uncharacteristically forthcoming about what's going on. They, IndyMac Federal, will be happy to negotiate with consumers directly in a streamlined manner, and consumers are to be on notice that they, IndyMac, will be negotiating in the bank's best interests… with absolutely no regard for the homeowner's best interests.

Fair enough, but understanding that's the situation, I'd prefer to have a knowledgeable expert watching out for my best interests, thank you very much. And I don't mind one bit having to pay that expert for their time and expertise. Of course, that's just me. Other people might choose to take a shot with a government help-line. It's entirely up to them.

Unless, of course, the government succeeds in putting all of the private loan modification companies out of business as a result of their misinformation campaign disguised as protecting the consumer from fraud. If they succeed, I suppose I'll have to call the government help-line, or face the paid experts at IndyMac Federal on my own. And won't I be happy about that… just wait until Timmy gets my holiday card next year.

2. As of today, there is no government program available –

This shouldn't be something I have to write much about, and it's certainly not something about which you have to take my word, or anybody else's for that matter. How do I know that there's no government program in place as of today? Because I called the government help-line myself and I also went in to speak with the nice folks at Well Fargo Bank. It takes some time, a couple of hours sitting on hold to be specific, but I encourage others to do the same.

On February 19, 2009, ABC News, in an interview with FDIC Chair Sheila Bair, reported that:

"The initial effects of President Obama's massive housing rescue plan will be felt as early as next month, one of the administration's top economic advisors predicted today."

What's today? March 19th? No, it's April 6, 2009. And there is no program in place. Period. Wells Fargo reports that they haven't even received the contracts from the Treasury Department as of today. I'm sure once they get those contracts, they'll just sign them without reading them and send them right back to Timmy at Treasury. Because that's always how things work when there are contracts, banks, and the Treasury Department involved, right?

After the contracting between the nation's banks and Treasury is completed, then according to FDIC Chair Sheila Bair, speaking on Good Morning America, "it will take some time to screen candidates, verify their incomes, and provide financial counseling to some applicants."

I'm quite certain that it will, as Ms. Bair said, take some time. I sure hope my bank will wait before foreclosing on my home. I'm sure they will. After all, they were so nice when I took out my mortgage.

3. The President's housing rescue plan doesn't help everyone who needs help – By Sheila Bair's own admission, and President Obama's too I might add, the Affordability and Stability Program will not help millions of homeowners at risk of losing their homes to foreclosure. According to Ms. Bair, again as quoted from her February 19, 2009 interview with ABC News:

"Bair also said that the (program's) huge expenditure won't halt an avalanche of foreclosures, conceding that there are millions of homeowners that are now so far 'underwater' – their homes now worth less than their mortgages – that they will inevitably lose their homes."

Inevitably? Did Ms. Bair just say inevitably? Now there's optimism for you. I guess she's counting on the government putting the legitimate loan modification companies out of business PDQ… pretty darn quick, as my mother used to say.

Okay… you heard her folks. According to FDIC Chair Sheila Bair, if you're in trouble with your underwater mortgage, it's inevitable that you're going to lose your home to foreclosure. Better start packing. No reason to try a legitimate loan modification company who might be able to help. It's inevitable, according to Ms. Bair, and she must know. She's chairperson of the FDIC, after all. If she doesn't know, who would? I mean, the FDIC saw this whole thing coming a mile away, and that's why they stepped in to stop our entire economy from going down the drain, right? Whew… we sure dodged a bullet there… thanks Sheila!

Sheila Bair also told ABC News that Obama's plan will "at least help 3 million to 4 million of those borrowers in distress". Bruce Marks, CEO of the Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America, however, dismisses Bair's claims. Marks told ABCnews.com:

"She is absolutely wrong. It will have minimal impact. They have pulled from the sky the 4-5 million mortgages that will be affected. It's just hype."

4. The President's Affordability & Stability Program only modifies loans for five years – That's right. President Obama's plan, assuming you qualify for a modification, only modifies your adjustable rate loan into another adjustable rate loan, one that adjusts to the prevailing rates five years from now. If rates are high five years from now, well… I guess we'll just see what happens then.

The fact is that legitimate private loan modification firms are achieving significantly better results for homeowners. Routinely, these private sector firms get modifications that change adjustable rate loans into 30-year fixed rate mortgages. It's not uncommon to see reductions in the principal amount owed by the homeowner.

In one specific case I witnessed recently, the loan modification firm got the bank to agree to reduce a $4,000 a month payment on adjusting loan, to $800 a month for three years, and after that, the payment tops out at $1900 a month. I would have to believe that the President's plan, or a consumer calling their bank directly is highly unlikely to achieve that result.

5. What President Obama said about private loan modification companies IS WRONG – President Obama has said "if you have to pay, walk away" from loan modification companies. He was wrong to say that, and what he said is harming troubled homeowners in an attempt to protect others from scams. He needs to know what he's done. His words will cause some homeowners to lose their homes unnecessarily. And I do not believe that was his intent.

I have personally visited with several loan modification companies over the last month. I have interviewed their CEOs, visited with their customers, attended audits being conducted by government regulatory agencies, and spoken with bankers, none of whom would agree to be mentioned by name. All of the companies I've interviewed and visited are unquestionably helping troubled homeowners and none could be considered in any way "scams". In fact, in my view, they are all critical components in any solution to the foreclosure crisis.

One such company, Green Credit Law Center, was one of the early entrants into the loan modification business, modified more than 300 mortgages for troubled homeowners in March 2009, and they expect to modify 600 mortgages on behalf of consumers in April. And that's a fact. Of course, they did charge a fee for their work, but since all of their customers that I spoke with personally didn't mind paying that fee in the least, I might add, I'm thinking it should be okay.

The government needs to regulate the loan modification industry in order to protect consumers from fraudulent operators, not wipe out the good with the bad. It occurs to me that there have been quite a few fraudulent investment scams out there over the years… but I don't remember my president ever telling me not to pay Charles Schwab or Merrill Lynch their fees.

With the camera running, I asked a loan modification expert at a law firm to contact a bank to check on a loan modification. He called one, and I won't say which one, today anyway. The woman at the bank told him that he would have to get the borrower on the phone before she could talk about the loan modification in progress. He did. When all three were finally on the call, the first thing the woman from the bank said was: "You know… you don't have to pay him. You can just call us directly."

I have to say that I have rarely been so shocked at anything in my life. And this woman was not a senior level bank executive, she was someone answering questions about loan modifications in progress. That means that what she said was the result of an institutionalized training program, she didn't come up with that line herself. She was told to say it.

"You don't have to pay him"? How dare you say such a thing? You're just saying that because you'd rather have a less experienced person with which to negotiate. You are not the person that should be giving advice to that borrower.

The banks should be on notice… I'm calling you… every day… more than once… and I'm filming it, and recording it. I'm coming after you with everything I've got.

In conclusion…

President Obama was obviously told that consumers don't need to use a private loan modification company. He said that homeowners could either call a government program or if they didn't qualify for that program, they could contact their bank directly. Both statements, while true, are also wholly beside the point.

Who would tell the President something like that? The banks, that's who… who else?

After spending months investigating the loan modification industry, I've come to understand that the banks do not want private loan modification companies helping consumers obtain loan modifications. Why? Because they'd much prefer to deal with homeowners who are not experts in mortgage terms, are distressed as a result of being at risk of losing their homes, and as a result are much easier to take advantage of, simple as that.

Is that an indictment of the entire banking industry? Yes, let me be very clear… IT IS.

Banks are debt collectors. That's what they do. When a homeowner in distress calls a bank directly to ask about modifying the terms of their mortgage, they are asking the bank to write off some of the money the consumer rightfully owes that bank. Does anyone imagine that the banks will be terribly helpful in that situation? If you do, then you've never been late on your car payment or mortgage payment… because in those situations the bank is not your friend. Never have been, and never will be. They want their money, and as much of it as soon as possible is their clear goal.

It has become obvious to me that both state and federal agencies have no idea what they're doing when it comes to solving the foreclosure crisis. I'm not blaming them for not knowing, this crisis has emerged, deepened, and changed quickly. But to put legitimate loan modification companies out of business, something they are very close to accomplishing, will only make things worse for millions of Americans.

Consider this… President Obama says having to pay makes a loan modification company a scam. Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan to told reporters at today's press conference in Washington to "Stay away from anyone who says they will save your home in return for money up front."

And at the same time, California's Department of Real Estate ("DRE") has published an "Advance Fee Agreement," and tells consumers to make sure that the company they hire to help them with their loan modification use that agreement, which was approved by the DRE. Unless the company is a law firm, in which case it's okay to pay a fee in advance and the advance fee agreement doesn't apply.

Well, that all seems pretty clear, doesn't it? The President says don't pay. The State of California says pay, but only if a certain form is used… unless it's a lawyer… or a Tuesday… and your license plate ends in an odd number… Oh my God.

Homeowners need to watch out for these things, as far as I'm concerned:

Scams – Check out the loan modification company before you pay them a nickel. Ask for references, check the Internet for complaints, visit their offices. And if you don't feel good about the firm, don't hire them. Look around, there are others out there… today, anyway.

The President, along with state and federal agencies – Our government has failed us at every turn in this crisis. They clearly don't know what they're talking about when it comes to saving people from losing their homes, as evidenced by the fact that millions of Americans have already lost their homes to foreclosure and all forecasts point to millions more losing their homes over the next two years. Save yourself. Your government doesn't even understand the problem. Your government hasn't even gone to the trouble of talking with anyone who's actually modified a mortgage.

The administration has recently been funding numerous non-profits to assist troubled homeowners. ACORN, for example, just received $5.2 million from the Neighborhood Stabilization funds to provide some sort of foreclosure counseling. The President's plan also offers to pay banks $4500 over five years for the loans they agree to modify, assuming borrowers make their payments, of course. I hope it works.

However, I think it's worth mentioning that when President Obama says that a loan modification shouldn't cost you anything, he means "you," not "us". When a homeowner pays a legitimate loan modification company three grand to get their mortgage modified, it costs us quite a bit less... nothing, not to put too fine a point on it. And the bank that modifies the loan does so because they decided to do so. Not because the government is paying them to help fix the problem they helped to create.

And I know it works, because I've seen it with my own two eyes... hundreds of times now.

The Banks – Your bank is out for itself. They are not being honest when they tell the President that consumers can simply call them directly. It would be like the police telling you that you don't need a lawyer. Whatever your bank tells you… check it out for yourself. Do not believe them at face value. The banks have proven themselves to be less than honest, and capable of anything. Beware the banker that says "trust me, we're a bank."

I received an email from newyorkforeclosurelaw.com this afternoon. It read:

If there is any lesson to be learned out there in the new wild west of loan modifications, it's that homeowners should hire an experienced lawyer.

I just interviewed someone who was a vice president level executive at several of the banks that we've all heard about. He was let go from his last vice presidency because he asked too many questions about what was going on. I believe what he's told me. And none of it is good. I asked him about the ratings agencies that slapped triple A ratings on the mortgage backed securities and he said that everyone knew that the models weren't taking the right risks into account. But no one raised the issue too loudly. No one stopped what was happening. And bonuses went higher and higher.

He was at one of those banks when the FDIC started forcing them to modify mortgages. He said it was an incredible mess, that there were no standards. No one knew what they were doing. Nothing was consistent. He said that a friend who's still at that bank says that things are going better today. That the bank has put a lot of effort and resources into their loan modification department. He agreed with what I said in this article about the banks being out for themselves and not for the homeowner. Frankly, his statements came as no surprise to me.

Then he said something I won't soon forget: "If they had put this much effort into loan modifications in the first place, we wouldn't have had this problem to begin with."

And I hung up the phone and started to cry.

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Mandelman

What a long strange trip its been... tomorrow I try to get in front of the California Department of Real Estate, and Sen. Feinstein. After that... it's going to be Miller Time.

  • 7 votes
#1 - Mon Apr 6, 2009 11:41 PM EDT
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Laura-400055

Eric: I totally agree....again..please see my recommendations for reading to educate about this mess we are in....

  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 10:53 AM EDT
Raymond Max

Mandalmen. I look forward to the day that you change your emphasis. Your investigative as well as creative writing skill is being waisted on this issue.

Let's be honest.. The business of BANKING is turning a profit. That is the only justification for investors to engage in banking. Service to the the consumer is secondary. It always has been.

In Banking, The customer is not always right.

The Federal reserve banking system is in a direct partnership with the U.S. Government.

We the people are simply being utilized as a place holder on a debit sheet. Your house, my house, as well as your personal vehicle in the state of California is simply a modified lease. Remember when Calif. eliminated the Pink Slip?

We retain the legal right to hold and transfer property. But in the true terms of ownership,WE DO NOT TRULY OWN OUR HOME. We are simply allowed to barter with it..

Your property will never be fully reconveyed to you.. A different issue to be sure.

The consumer that is in default in his lend lease home that is used as collateral by the U.S. Government, is at the mercy of the Government as well as the federally funded institution that manages the mortgage on that leveraged property.

While Iagree with you that consumers should have a choice in methods of adjusting the mortgage on theirproperty, I would like to remind you and all of your friends....That when we buy a property, We in effect become limited partners with the Lender...If we default on that limited partnership, then it is our bad.

Should the lein holder work with the limited partner to preserve the deal?... depends.. But it should certainly be on the terms of the majority partner...

Granted.. Many were screwed by adjustable arms.. No doubt some were overly optimistic about the future..

As far as the Treasury... We will never be privy to the side deal that has been created for the major Banking partners..

I am sure that the bad press being generated by Tim and the boys is in partnership with the Banking system. Aswell it should be.. We all tend to take care of our biggest players. That's business as usual..

As a Real Estate professional, I look forward to the day that it all goes away.. That will take some time. But it will happen. As you have mentioned Mandelman, our economy will not stabilize before housing stabilizes. Good luck to all of us.. Ray

  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 3:16 PM EDT
Mandelman

I guess I've come to understand that the banks are truly guilty here, while others were much more passive in their complicity. For example, homeowners are only guilty because they wanted to buy a house for whatever reasons, but the banks knew what they were doing in packaging mortgage backed securities, they knew what they were doing in lowering reserves for losses in order to inflate profits and pay out enormous bonuses, they knew what they were doing when they signed deals to service mortgages they didn't own and knew would soon default. They are experts. Homeowners are not. Therefore I hold them to a much higher standard.

  • 3 votes
#1.4 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 4:09 PM EDT
goldnmypoc

Whoa R Max, are you setting the tone as we usually do to continue the insanity that has become the biggest parts of our lives? Because at this point I'm ready to just name those biggest players, like George W Bush Madoff, and Barack Obama Madoff, as it is only in a degree of measurement that they are as shameful as the Madoff that happened to get caught up in the justice system. Corruption is simply a degree of breaking those laws that we set forth but only that degree that makes our leaders able to hold up their heads when they should be bowing them in shame. Lord I'm tired of toleration and I guess those big wheels are just too big to fail.

  • 1 vote
#1.5 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 5:18 PM EDT
goldnmypoc

Including the bankers that have done yet again what they succeeded in doing in the 30's.

  • 1 vote
#1.6 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 5:30 PM EDT
Raymond Max

Gold and Mandelman. I am a consumer advocate.

Without a doubt Mandelman, The banks are guilty of sloppy business. When you have the U.S. Treasury telling the world as well as the citizens of America, that you are to big to fail. And then the federal government with G.W. at the helm starting a federal bailout program with little or no accountability required on the institutional side.

It becomes more than apparent that you,THE BANK... Have been given a blank check by the future tax payers of the U.S.

Why comply?..Business is Business. Detroit was put under the micro scope as City bank was handed another 100 Billion.. The Federal Reserve banking system is a direct corporate partnership[ with the U.S. Treasury.

We all know that for a fact. Mandalman knows it better than most. He has researched the cause and effect of our melt down extensively.

Am I condoning this corporate misbehavior?.. No, I have simply come to the conclusion that it is business as usual.

I am not suggesting that we tolerate this behavior. I am simply stating that we can talk about this issue at hand to no avail.

Legislative action will be required to change this mortgage mess. Not the passive passing of the loaf of bread that..... Oh say can you see Obama has extended to the hungry hoard..

  • 2 votes
#1.7 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 5:55 PM EDT
goldnmypoc

Think it is all getting the best of me Max, the newsvine opened my eyes more than they were opened. My own disaster doesn't help with patience.

  • 1 vote
#1.8 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 6:32 PM EDT
Lisa Schneider

Ray...just not thinking we are such a passive society anymore, where nothing will ever change. Perhaps, before the internet came along and made information sharing so easy, and issues viral, you'd have a point. Now, virtually everyone has access to stories MSM would've buried or slanted their own way. People are not complacent in their passions like the old days (not so long ago)...and they now have the immediate resources to find information easily, and share it with the masses. This article is a case in point, and the ones that proceeded it. Ten years ago we relied on our newspapers...they're all heading towards bankruptcy now or will soon. Broadcast TV has been watching their audiences eroding for several years now...their time will come too, if not now, then when our young people who spend the bulk of their time on the internet vs the tube grow into the "money demos".
Remember when Palin had to come out with the news her daughter was pregnant? Blog sites forced her hand...Huffington Post to be exact. Palin was at her announcement rally on Friday, by Saturday afternoon she had been vetted by bloggers, and the laundry was dirty. By Monday, she had no choice. My point is...we're not all just sitting in front of the 10 o'clock news anymore eating it up what they tell us as Gospel...are we?

  • 2 votes
#1.9 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 10:14 PM EDT
Raymond Max

That's nice Lisa... I do not understand your point.

You have been reading and talking to me long enough to know that I am a man of the people. I admire Mandelmans efforts.

I am simply pointing out the obvious connection between Government and the Financial sector. It is a no brain er.. F.D.I.C. Federal Reserve Bank. U.S. Department of the Treasury. And now brought to you by our new administration. FEDERALLY GURANTEED LOAN UNDERWRITING. @ the option of the lending institution.

That's right Lisa.. The Banks may comply to the Presidents F.H.A. Guidelines at their option.. It is a business decision. And although the Government is loosely protecting the consumer.. Banks still hold the trump card..

You may all beat your head against the wall as hard as you want to.. I will stand behind you and push.. But until the bond is broken between the financial welfare system that is national Banking.. Nothing will change.. Still your friend.. Ray

P.S. I do not believe the Palins daughter being pregnant should of had an impact on the U.S. political process. That news in my opinnion was an invasion on her families privacy

  • 5 votes
#1.10 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:07 PM EDT
Mandelman

Okay Ray... I have to take a shot here...

1. I think as our country grew people started to feel disconnected from government. Sure, we stopped the war during the late sixties and and early seventies, but for the most part government started to feel very far away from the average person.

2. Today, however, the country has shrunk again. Last year's book, The World is Flat, is an example of my thinking here. The Internet has made it smaller. Over the last 30 days, for example, I've communicated through my articles on Newsvine alone with some 12,000 people from all fifty states and as far away as London, Moscow, and Sydney.

3. It's also worth remembering a little 8th grade Civics. Our country is run more by the legislative branch than by the executive branch. Congress is where the power lies.

4. Congressional representatives are elected by the constituents in each of their respective districts, relatively small areas when you think about it. And the #1 goal of a congressional representative is to get reelected.

5. When our founding fathers designed our government, they created our bi-cameral congress with the idea that one would be a check on the other. The more frequently elected House of Representatives was designed that way so it would be the body that would more directly reflect the changes in public opinion.

6. The House of Representatives has powers the senate does not. For example all appropriations bills MUST originate in the House. The House can impeach a president and elect a new president in the event of a tie in the Electoral Collage. The Senate's power is over the president. The president needs the senate's approval of high ranking positions, for example.

7. My point here is that our congressional representatives are very heavily influenced by their constituents, and that means a relatively small number of people can and do change the way congress thinks about issues. Congressional representatives are very in tune with how their constituents think and feel about issues. They poll, they read their mail and their email, and they pay attention when people that vote are upset. And it's not that difficult for them to do this, as they are only tracking their own districts respectively.

NOW THE BANKS:

8. What the banks did was not business as usual. They packaged mortgage backed securities as bonds and divided those bonds into tranches (think: buckets). They wanted bonds with AAA ratings and so they made sure the top tranche would be rated AAA by Moody's, Fitch, or S&P, by filling it with CASH FLOWS... not mortgages... CASH FLOWS. This disconnected the mortgages from their payments and guaranteed that the two would never be linked again.

9. Some of those cash flows came from 'A' paper and some came from 'C' paper, but because they were cash flows... well, cash is cash. They knew that some of that cash would have the tendency to default more than others, but they did it anyway.

10. Then, each of those tranches got divided up and sold by Goldman Sachs, for example, in bonds of smaller denominations, and now it would be completely impossible to figure out who owned which part of which cash flow coming from which mortgage. The bank who originated the mortgages in the first place now had sold their mortgages, received their money, and had no responsibility for anything. And no one would ever be able to find out which cash flows went into which tranches, which later got sliced again into bonds.

11. They sent the bonds to the ratings agencies KNOWING that the ratings agency models did not take into account 100% financing, or lax lending standards, and they knew that it would be impossible to tell where the cash flows had come from. The numbers looked right and the bonds got their AAA rating.

12. The bond holders, like Goldman Sachs, then called AIG and got AIG to insure the bonds against losses... disclosing nothing about how the bonds were constructed.

The outcome of all this was obviously disastrous for our country, but that's not all that should be terribly upsetting, in my view. What the banks also did, was they knowingly kept their ALLL (reserve account for expected losses) low, in order to artificially inflate profits and hence pay out billions in bonuses. That was no accident.

So, not only did the banks systematically defraud investors resulting in a taxpayer liability that may never be repaid, certainly not in my lifetime... not only did their actions cause untold pain to millions of homeowners, workers, and retirees on a scale previously unimaginable... but they did all of this... and awarded themselves enormous bonuses for their trouble.

And that means that while millions are struggling by day and lying sleepless at night... these guys are galavanting about scott free... sunning themselves on yachts, teeing up golf balls on country club golf courses, and dining at the toniest of restaurants... secure in the knowledge that they will never be caught and brought to justice for the rape of the United States of America.

Ray... We do have the power to affect change, our Founding Fathers made sure of that. There is power in even 100 Letters (which coincidentally the title of my next article, by the way). There is power in the Vine... we just have to awaken it and harness it.

For me anyway, complacency, in light of what's happened as a result of the actions of a specific group, is not an option. Children are being forced to leave their bedrooms all over this country... thousands every day. Their parents are crying and they're scared. Senior citizens are being forced to return to work in their 70s and 80s. Bankruptcies are skyrocketing. Lives are being changed forever.

To hell with them, Ray. To hell with them.

  • 4 votes
#1.11 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 12:56 AM EDT
Raymond Max

Congratulations... You have finaly stepped out from behind curtain #1 mortgage Modification, and addressed the true issue behind curtain #2. The Fleasing of America. By the Lending institutions with the blessing of the United States Government. You now win the prize behind door #3. Personal disillusionment in God and Country.

Now what dear Mandelman?.. This monster that you are grabbing by the tail is huge.

Beware my Friend. While I agree with your position, prepare to suffer along with those that you long to protect..

Or is this simply disdain that you hold for a corrupt financial system gone aerie with the blessings of a U.S./ World government that has been blinded to the needs of the hoards as it reaches for the easy pickings of 0 interest Federal Bail out stimulus.

I have held hands with some of those that you speak of.

They are not so much unlike you and I. The 000,000,000,'s are simply more numerous behind their bonuses.

We are all paying for the acceptance of too wide of a gap between the top and the bottom of our societies ladder.

Good luck to you my Friend with Dianne. I had the pleasure of meeting her years ago at a San Francisco fund raiser. She is quite clever.

Be sure to speak into her good ear. The Left one is full of $ Bills. After all , she is married to one of the wealthiest business men in our country.

I am sure that she has quite an affection for the little people. After all, with them gone, Who will clean the pool and park the Bently.. R.Max

  • 4 votes
#1.12 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 1:56 AM EDT
goldnmypoc

They would have you believe that AIG was too big to fail, and they would also have you believe that FDIC was too big to fail. But the bail out of the banks was done so that FDIC did not fail as it would have FAILED if they didn't have the bailed out. It was that serious of a matter.

  • 2 votes
#1.13 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 7:17 AM EDT
Raymond Max

I believe you goldnmypoc...

  • 2 votes
#1.14 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 11:50 AM EDT
Mandelman

Hey... if anyone wants to help me with getting some neutral media coverage of loan modification companies, send an email to:

johnandken@kfi640.com

Mention me, Mandelman... tell them that you read my columns... tell them I'm occasionally funny... tell them to bring me on their show! Thanks!

  • 2 votes
#1.15 - Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:28 PM EDT
EllieP

Done!

  • 1 vote
#1.16 - Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:00 PM EDT
Mandelman

Awesome, thanks!

  • 1 vote
#1.17 - Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:10 AM EDT
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SS-CA

Thanks for the info Mandelman; I'll make sure to pass on the word. If these companies can help, it seems vital that the general populace know the truth. I'm sure it's not all peaches and cream, but if someone's serious about keeping their home, I'm sure they'll need all the real help they can get.

They are paid to represent the best interests of the homeowner – And no one else is.

  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 12:28 AM EDT
Mandelman

To be blunt, I can't even believe there's anyone that doesn't see this picture. Which one sounds like it will work the best:

A. The Government Help-Line.

B. The Non-Profit Charity Staffed by Volunteers.

C. You Asking Your Bank to Write-Off Some of the Money You Owe Them.

D. The Law Firm Staffed By Mortgage Experts You Retain to Get Your Mortgage Modified.

If you didn't say 'D,' then you've been living on a different planet from the one I live on, and I'd like to know more about your customs. Please don't point your finger at me and crush my skull like a ping-pong ball.

  • 4 votes
#2.1 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 12:49 AM EDT
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grannyj55

Martin: B. The Non-Profit Charity Staffed by Volunteers.

I will only take exception with this one point. The counselors are not volunteers. They are paid employed staff positions.

CCCS, NID-NCA and NACA do a few job openings posted for counselor, licensed real estate specialist, loss mitigation specialist. Will supply educational, licensing and experience requirements if you wish to see. I would not qualify.

I don't shoot lasers or ping pong balls LOL - just interact with the working poor - my place on planet Earth. Way way down on a different realm of planet Earth.

Granny

  • 3 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 4:50 AM EDT
Mandelman

Hi Granny... I'm totally supportive of non-profit solutions, and I never meant to imply otherwise. I just hate seeing an entire industry maligned because some within it are bad. I think the government has a responsibility to regulate the industry, not just throw their hands up and say they can't figure it out and therefore all are bad. That's really my point. I've met with so many people these organizations have helped.

Even the company that got in trouble yesterday for advertising practices, I think they are called Federal Loan Modification, or something like that, I now read has modified 1,000 mortgages. Now, I hate their name and think they should get in trouble for being sleazy marketers... but they also have modified 1,000 mortgages.

I guess overall, I'm looking for balance... and solutions... that's it. Thanks for jumping on this with me. I really do appreciate your work and your passion... we're a lot alike in that way. I regret that I've been so busy lately trying to keep my candle burning at all ends that I haven't had time to really be me in my responses. Hope you'll forgive me...

  • 4 votes
#3.1 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 3:59 PM EDT
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goldnmypoc

You Mandelman, might not want to blame federal agencies but I totally hold them responsible for the mess we are in. They helped create it and they are helping it move on in a direction that no one really wants to go. The President promised us jobs and instead he is taking an industry, that could have employed me, and he is bringing it to its knees. If there is something wrong with loan modification companies then fix it, don't put it out of business. There is logic that banks DO NOT want the best for a homeowner that is caught up in this disaster. But this crisis will go on and my tax dollars will foot the banking industry that cares little about it's customers. And all you homeowners....beware.....as if this ever ends your property won't be worth as much as you paid for it for a long long time. Those "For Sale" signs to your left and to your right are going to be your own downfall.

  • 1 vote
Reply#4 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 9:26 AM EDT
Mandelman

You're right about what you're saying... and more people should realize it, if they don't already, soon.

  • 2 votes
#4.1 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 4:02 PM EDT
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Laura-400055

Please read the book Chain of Blame: How Wall Street Caused the Mortgage and Credit Crisis by Paul Muolo and Mathew Padilla. It is a stunning account of greed, greed and more greed by people who still believe they are better and smarter than the rest of the population. Their greed extended all over the world....helped by Wall Street....

  • 2 votes
Reply#5 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 10:51 AM EDT
Mandelman

Hi Laura... I will do that. And thanks for the recommendation.

  • 3 votes
#5.1 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 4:03 PM EDT
EllieP

Mandelman, you've done a great job and a public service on this issue. I share your frustration, but congratulate you on your persistence. Good luck with the next steps.

  • 4 votes
#5.2 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 6:17 PM EDT
Laura-400055

Mandelman: I second ElliePhat's response...excellent article.

  • 4 votes
#5.3 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 6:18 PM EDT
Mandelman

Thank you... and wish me luck... I'm about to go play Mr. Smith Goes to Washington... I'm going to shake some trees and see what falls out. And next month, the cover article in The Niche Report... after that, if nothing has changed... it's off to D.C. and NYC to make a complete fool of myself with camera crew in tow. Like I've said before, I'm not proud... or tired.

But seriously... thank you for sticking with me through this... I know you'd probably prefer to read something else... I figure by the time I write another one... there'll be like six readers left. lol...

  • 3 votes
#5.4 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 1:05 AM EDT
EllieP

Go with God, Mr. Smith-Mandelman.

  • 3 votes
#5.5 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 9:02 AM EDT
Mandelman

I always do... Thanks Ellie...

  • 2 votes
#5.6 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 2:10 PM EDT
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Bill Harrison

Great article as usual Martin. Do you have any information how how the Hope For Homeowners program through HUD is being implemented? How about the Fannie/Freddie modification plan?

  • 5 votes
Reply#6 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 10:56 AM EDT
Mandelman

I do have some. The Freddie/Fannie modification plan doesn't exist yet, and every time I look it up it changes, so obviously someone doesn't know what he is doing. Hopeless for Homeowners can only get better. Bush started it, funded it and no one participated in it, and last October FNC reported that it had modified 79 loans. However, they report things like the number of phone calls they answered and they lump forbearance in with other outcomes, so their data is deceptive and generally not to be relied upon in my view. At least to-date.

Meanwhile... I need to talk with you about something... I have an insider from "the banks". A senior executive who was "there". I need questions to ask and I know you know the subject matter better than I do... what do WE want to know. I even got something leaked to me today... a memo that's unbelievable... the banks knew the ratings agency models weren't accounting for the nature of the cash flows used inside the bonds... they knew it for sure... and they still kept their reserves for expected losses low in order to pay out big bonuses. They knew it the whole time Bill... and I think they need to pay the money they stole back.

  • 3 votes
#6.1 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 1:14 AM EDT
Bill Harrison

. . .the banks knew the ratings agency models weren't accounting for the nature of the cash flows used inside the bonds...

When you say "banks" precisely which entities are you referring to? If you're talking about the mortgage originators I'm not quite sure why they should care what the ratings agencies have to say about the securities (CDOs) which were composed of bits and pieces of the mortgages they originated. If by "banks" you're referring to the Wall Street firms who were making a market in these securities then that is indeed big news and would be indicative of fraud in a criminal sense.

Sorry for the double post but somehow the reply button dropped the first one to the bottom of the thread.

  • 2 votes
#6.2 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 9:22 AM EDT
Raymond Max

Hello Bill. I do not believe that the loan originators had anything to do with the commodity trading of mortgage based securities. Nor did they have anything to do with selling those instruments short or long on world markets. These are all issues stemming from the way we do business..

  • 1 vote
#6.3 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 11:56 AM EDT
Bill Harrison

I understand all of this quite well which is why I asked Martin who he was referring to when he says "banks".

  • 2 votes
#6.4 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 12:43 PM EDT
Mandelman

From IndyMac to Goldman Sachs... Not IndyMac loan origination, but IndyMac Corporate.

  • 1 vote
#6.5 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 2:12 PM EDT
Bill Harrison

Not IndyMac loan origination, but IndyMac Corporate.

That's a pretty meaningless distinction Martin. And since IndyMac bought its own MBSs to hold in their portfolio it doesn't make much sense if they knew they were crap to begin with.

  • 2 votes
#6.6 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 2:54 PM EDT
Mandelman

Yeah, that's what I get for responding to you in a hurry on my way out the door. I was speaking at a luncheon for the National Association of Insurance and Financial Advisors (NAIFA) and I was running late.

What I was trying to say was that the banks, like IndyMac, knew that they were under-reserving for expected losses as a result of how the MBSs were packaged and rated, which resulted in artificially high profits and hence enormous bonuses. I'm told that it was essentially common knowledge among senior management... willful blindness was the term used.

Headed home now and can respond more thoughtfully from there.

  • 3 votes
#6.7 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 9:40 PM EDT
Bill Harrison

Okay. That makes a bit more sense. But if I'm not mistaken wasn't IndyMac primarily an alt-A lender? I'm going to have to see a lot more evidence before I'm going to buy into the fraud scenario although I'm sure investigations are either underway or will be underway shortly. In the meantime, you may find this longish NY Mag piece on how the CDOs were created of interest.

  • 3 votes
#6.8 - Thu Apr 9, 2009 6:53 AM EDT
Mandelman

I'll read it. Also, I'm continuing my interview with the insider guy later today and the topic is fraud... or more accurately as he puts it... "wilfull blindness".

  • 2 votes
#6.9 - Thu Apr 9, 2009 5:20 PM EDT
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Martha102459

In the Presidents Recovery Programs such as Making Home Affordable why aren't the AIG mortgage companies listed?  I would think they would have been made to participate.

  • 1 vote
Reply#7 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 1:11 PM EDT
Bill Harrison

Uh, AIG is not a mortgage lender.

  • 3 votes
#7.1 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 1:16 PM EDT
Laura-400055

Bill Harrison: No...AIG is not a mortgage lender, but they didn't mind exposing themselves to the hazards of the mortgage meltdown. They are just as culpable as everyone else who was out to make a quick buck, they got themselves involved by underwriting high risk mortgages which they made money on, when those mortgages were bundled and sold on Wall Street.....all of these people KNEW what they were doing...they were just rolling the dice.....the bottom fell out of the housing market, people started walking away from their mortgages; both things that the Wall Street and corporate high rollers didn't count on...I don't think it is entirely out of line to mention AIG right along with the mortgage crisis....they were a big part of it.

  • 2 votes
#7.2 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 6:22 PM EDT
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Bill Harrison

. . .the banks knew the ratings agency models weren't accounting for the nature of the cash flows used inside the bonds...

When you say "banks" precisely which entities are you referring to? If you're talking about the mortgage originators I'm not quite sure why they should care what the ratings agencies have to say about the securities (CDOs) which were composed of bits and pieces of the mortgages they originated. If by "banks" you're referring to the Wall Street firms who were making a market in these securities then that is indeed big news and would be indicative of fraud in a criminal sense.

  • 2 votes
Reply#8 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 9:21 AM EDT
carpefriggingdiem-866758

Mandelman,

The government's responsibility here is to regulate the loan modification industry to protect consumers. . . . The government, obviously, can't seem to figure out how to regulate the loan modification industry, so they are abdicating their responsibility by making the blanket statement about loan modification companies: "If you have to pay, walk away."

The government's failure is monumental. If you are looking for "why," then consider this: The loan modification programs don't have to run for public office. Sooooo, if you want to see what's up, go to http://www.opensecrets.org/www.opensecrets.org.

If/when your readers go to that site, look up the data pertaining to how much various politicians have taken in campaign contributions from the insurance, banking and finance industries. You can look those states up for each of the past 5-6 Congresses. The contributions are sorted according to industry. Note how much money was given to key members of Congress in 1996, then track those contributions for each Congress. Nothing but a steady upward trend for every one of them. Folla the dolla.

  • 2 votes
Reply#9 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 12:11 PM EDT
Mandelman

Will do and thanks for providing the link... great site, by the way. Everyone should check it out.

  • 3 votes
#9.1 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 2:13 PM EDT
Laura-400055

Carpe: I agree with your folla the dolla statement....seems just another example of our elected servants...not working for "we the people"....guess they thought it meant "us the corporate and banking machine".

  • 3 votes
#9.2 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 6:47 PM EDT
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carpefriggingdiem-866758

Mandelman,

I noticed that I had screwed that link up. Actually, it's http://www.opensecrets.org/.

  • 2 votes
Reply#10 - Wed Apr 8, 2009 8:17 PM EDT
Mandelman

I loved that blog... Open Secrets. That's a keeper.

  • 2 votes
Reply#11 - Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:42 AM EDT
goldnmypoc

U.S. housing sales are near a bottom, and a third of sales are now of foreclosed properties, the chief economist of Freddie Mac, Frank Nothaft, said on Saturday.

CNBC.com

But Nothaft, speaking on a panel at a conference in Nashville, Tennessee, also said there were delinquency risks ahead. Unemployment is the main trigger for prime borrowers becoming delinquent and house price declines add to foreclosure risk, he said.

Nothaft said loan modifications in private-label securities are key to foreclosure reduction.

He noted that Federal Housing Administration lending is up sharply, with FHA loans at the largest share of the U.S. housing market since 1942, and mortgage rates are at a 50-year low.

Freddie Mac is the second largest provider of home financing in the United States.

  • 1 vote
Reply#12 - Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:21 AM EDT
Mandelman

Nothaft said loan modifications in private-label securities are key to foreclosure reduction.

You know what that means, right? Does everyone see that quote? The Obama plan doesn't cover private label securities, right. Only Fannie and Freddie securitizations, right? So, that's the Chief Economist from Freddie Mac telling the country that the Obama plan IS NOT the key to foreclosure reduction. Right? Get it? Please tell me you get it.

And refinancing mortgages for people who are mildly annoyed by their mortgage payment isn't going to being back prosperity. Truth be told, no one will even notice its impact.

We need an answer to the foreclosure crisis that doesn't cost the taxpayer billions. Right?

Let the private sector solution solve the problem. It will. It's proven itself. Regulate it. Stop the scammers. But let it work. Because without it, as you just heard the Chief Economist from Freddie say... the foreclosures will continue... which means they will breed more foreclosures, which will decrease consumer spending, which will lead to higher unemployment, which means even more foreclosures... prime loan foreclosures... it could be any of us that are next.

Say something to your congressional representative. Private sector solutions that are regulated are a big part of the answer. But, as of today, right God damn now... in movie theaters in at least nine states, the administration is running ads before the movie starts telling people not to pay for a loan modification because if you have to pay, it's probably a scam.

Because of those ads, people will lose their homes unnecessarily. Period. Restore common sense in Washington. Stop the madness. Tell Obama to try to get his own mortgage modified. Find one of his relatives... ask them to try... Barney? Nancy? One of you pick up the God damn phone.

Obama says DON'T PAY FOR A LOAN MODIFICATION.

The State of California says ONLY hire a firm using the approved "ADVANCE FEE AGREEMENT".

THEY'RE MAKING ME DIZZY...

  • 3 votes
#12.1 - Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:25 PM EDT
goldnmypoc

I hope we all survive this. ;(

  • 1 vote
#12.2 - Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:00 PM EDT
Reply
Minister C.J. Di Donna

DEER-SIX THE FED
 
Why don't our democratic representatives of both Houses on the Hill in Washington D.C., put forth a referendum that either the FED is morphed (since both political parties are terrified any time someone utters the word Nationalization) into a government agency where at least the general public will have a voice in the decision making of the FED through their elected representatives or public advocate's (elected by the people in a special election because of the severity of the foreclosure crisis) where they will have equal seats and voting power on the Federal Reserve Board.
As it stands now, the Federal Reserve Board cares only of bailing out the CEO's of Wall Street and the banks.
Not the thousands of American families (that ACORN is doing their best to help) with children, the elderly and pets that will be left homeless due to the foreclosure of their primary homes.
Enough of bailing out Wall Street and the banks with our money from the FED and we have no say in it nor do the financial aristocrats at Wall street and the banks need to disclose to anyone (including Congress or the U.S. Senate) where this money is going. It's time that we deep-six the FED for the sake of the working class people of our nation.

  • 1 vote
Reply#13 - Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:45 AM EDT
goldnmypoc

Err, do you mean Wal-street? ;)P

  • 1 vote
#13.1 - Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:52 PM EDT
Reply
Minister C.J. Di Donna

DEER-SIX THE FED Why don't our democratic representatives of both Houses on the Hill in Washington D.C., put forth a referendum that either the FED is morphed (since both political parties are terrified any time someone utters the word Nationalization) into a government agency where at least the general public will have a voice in the decision making of the FED through their elected representatives or public advocate's (elected by the people in a special election because of the severity of the foreclosure crisis) where they will have equal seats and voting power on the Federal Reserve Board.
As it stands now, the Federal Reserve Board cares only of bailing out the CEO's of Wall Street and the banks.
Not the thousands of American families (that ACORN is doing their best to help) with children, the elderly and pets that will be left homeless due to the foreclosure of their primary homes.
Enough of bailing out Wall Street and the banks with our money from the FED and we have no say in it nor do the financial aristocrats at Wall street and the banks need to disclose to anyone (including Congress or the U.S. Senate) where this money is going. It's time that we deep-six the FED for the sake of the working class people of our nation.

    Reply#14 - Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:47 AM EDT
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